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这是国家和世界上有史以来最动荡的岁月之一。但是,正如我们上周报道的GeekWire,据Pitchbook和美国国家风险投资协会(National venture capital Association)的数据,美国的风险投资在2020年再次打破纪录,首次突破1500亿美元。

根据Geekwire的Tally,融资总计在西雅图和太平洋西北地区的融资总数为44亿美元,同比增长15%,同比增长15%our running list of startup investments.

到底怎么回事?我的同事,GeekWire联合创始人约翰•库克(John Cook)向迈克•戴维森(Mike Davidson)提出了这个问题,他是西雅图的一位科技和媒体老手,曾在2012年至2016年间担任Twitter的设计副总裁,during the recording of our most recent GeekWire podcast episode. 这部分对话并没有进入最后的剪辑,但是我们发现分析很有启发性,所以我们在这里把它作为一个额外的插曲来呈现。

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约翰库克:One of the stories in the news for us this week wasthe venture capital numbers came out. 迈克,你曾经是一位企业家,筹集过风险投资资金,我知道你一直在密切关注创业市场的情况,这个数字非常大。

I think this is surprising to a lot of people, based on the fact that we’re in a pandemic, we’ve got an economic recession, we seem to be tearing each other apart. And yet, boy, the startup and innovation market and the stock market for that matter, is just hummin’ like never before. Can you provide any sort of thoughts or analysis on why you think that is?

Mike Davidson was Twitter’s VP of Design from 2012 to 2016. He founded Seattle-based citizen journalism startup Newsvine in 2005, and worked as a vice president at NBCNews.com after its acquisition of the company.

迈克·戴维森:Yeah, venture capital loves destruction.

JC公司:It’s true.

戴维森:是的。风投们总是说他们是为了改善世界。在很多情况下,他们是,但真正赚钱的地方是破坏,旧的东狗万平台西开始崩溃,新的东西取而代之。那才是赚钱的地方。我认为我们在过去几周所看到的,但即使在过去几年里,特别是在去年的流感大流行中,我们也看到很多旧的系统已经存在太久了,它们开始崩溃,并被新事物所取代。

远程保健就是一个很好的例子。我们能做远程保健已经很长时间了,我们能做远程保健的时间比我们能做远程工作的时间要长得多。远程工作,你需要真正高性能的视频流。远程医疗就像,嘿,给我发封邮件,附上你皮肤上的斑点的照片。我来告诉你是什么。

JC公司:To that point, Mike, you know, going through our story that Taylor Soper, our managing editor at GeekWire wrote, he actually listed the top 10 startups that raised money in the fourth quarter. And number two was, guess what,虚拟初级护理启动98.6将11800万美元提高到大流行性的PANTIMAXS对数字健康技术的需求.

戴维森:你去了。

JC公司:So right here in our backyard in Seattle, $118 million is nothing to shake a stick at. That’s a lot of funding going into that concept.

戴维森:Absolutely. And they’re doing a great job. They’re a late-stage startup. There’s much earlier-stage startups, too, that are only 5-10 people that are working on this problem. Everything all the way up to Amazon. Amazon Care, is also trying to solve some of this problem, as well. Say what you want about Amazon, they are really good at squeezing every last penny out of the supply chain. And sometimes this is bad. You don’t really like the idea of a person making handmade goods, squeezing their margin down to like a penny or whatever. But for health-related stuff. Yeah, let’s squeeze all of the money out of the health insurance industry, like the health insurance industry should not exist at all, in my in my opinion.

So if Amazon is able to help us get to a world in which we are paying reasonable amounts for health care, we are cutting out as much waste, frankly, out of the system, and politics of the system as possible, and that’s a good thing. I have a doctor friend, he’s a cardiologist. He told me they’ve wanted to do telehealth for 10 years, at least. And the answer has always been no. And then, as soon as the pandemic happened, it was like, we’re starting on Monday. Telehealth appointments start on Monday. It just proves, it was a decision that somebody didn’t want to make before. And now because of the pandemic, it’s forced us to make different decisions. And so VCs love that sort of atmosphere.

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JC公司:我听过很多不同的理论来解释为什么我们会看到资本大量涌入。但这是对正在发生的破坏以及为什么它会创造新的机会的一个很好的描述。

戴维森:还有很多其他原因。比如说,没有别的地方可以放你的钱了。那些习惯于投资债券、收益率为5%的人现在面临的是1%的收益率,所以他们会说,‘好吧,我在那里什么也赚不到。’你的现金也赚不到什么。所以就好像,‘嘿,我为什么不把一些钱投到风险投资上,因为那里的回报显然不太可靠,但可以说,上限要高得多。’

JC公司:我知道你住,像我们一样,通过网络boom-and-bust periods. Do you worry that things are just absolutely too red hot and overinflated, that this is gonna go a different direction?

戴维森:这并不是我担心的。狗万平台我认为总会有爆炸和胸围周期。所以唯一的问题是,这仍然是多久的繁荣?当周期通常转向南方时,我们已经过去了。所以我只是担心经济的周期性。狗万平台我担心它何时会拒绝,但我认狗万平台为它将拒绝的原因是不一定是因为流入风险投资的钱太多。

我认为我们在这个国家的真正存在的问题是,我们在这个国家有很多人都需要在下一个需要工作,5,10,20岁。长大的人认为他们可以在制造业中拥有职业生涯或者在一个人的行业中留下职业生涯,这些行业使他们养成了高和干燥。A lot of the sentiment that you see around middle America is due to that, is due to the fact that, hey, the opportunity for us here doesn’t seem to be as high as it is for people on the coast who are working in tech.

JC公司:但迈克,每个人都留下硅谷并搬到奥斯汀,显然。

戴维森:我不担心那些人。这实际上是一件好事,就像狗万平台所有的科技都在扩散到其他领域一样。那很好。我担心的是,如果我不想进入科技行业,我想养活我的家人,我该怎么办?

我看太阳能电池板之类的东西。如果我们想有一个联邦政府资助的太阳能电池板项目,我们可以在10年内在这个国家的每个屋顶上安装太阳能电池板,每个屋顶上都安装太阳能电池板。那些面板不会自己上去的。他们带着人们爬上屋顶,拧紧面板,安装面板。这正是许多美国人有资格做的工作。这不是高科技工作。这是很好的,诚实的工作。对环境、对国家、对一切都有好处。如果你愿意在联邦项目上大干一场,你可以做这些事情。我想这就是拜登政府未来几年将要看到的。

跟随Mike Davidson on Twitter@mikeindustries。你也可以read and listen here to our full conversation狗万平台关于社交媒体和政治。柯特米尔顿制作和编辑的播客。丹尼尔L.K.考德威尔的主题音乐。

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